MC: How did you guys get together to form Peeling Grey?  Was there a precipitating event, so to speak?

PG: I met our former guitarist Mike at a club I was running in 2007. We use to jam, just the two of us in his Hollywood apartment starting in the summer of 2008. I brought in our first two songs “Faith In Forever” and “Peeling Grey”. Months down the road my friends Richard Nielsen and Naren Renz came in to complete the line-up. I had a musical past with the both of them…..especially Naren. After some changes last year my longtime friend Karla Blume took over on guitar.

Everyone I have played with in this project has been a friend, prior to Peeling Grey finally becoming a reality. We even had another friend James Hazley produce & engineer our demo EP. He also was a session guitarist until Karla stepped in. I suppose the band is a family affair of sorts. I’m fortunate to personally know great talent that makes this thing fly.

MC:  What sort of music were you listening to in your formative years?  Was this a major influence on your music now?

PG: First wave Punk, New Wave, and early Goth music paved the way for me ever since I was in my early teens. I always felt I borrowed from various influences and was inspired by very particular characteristics from each group or artist. The Cure has always been a tremendous source of ideas both musically and stylistically. I feel some of our songs reflect a degree of “Cure-esque” emotion if I dare say so. I feel our song “The World’s Not Sorry” is one of them.

The spirit of The Clash always spoke to me on many levels. I think that compelled me to write (lyrically) a few songs geared away from emotional distress and heartache and address bigger issues. “The Strip” is so far our most political song as it is a reflection of everyday life in the Gaza Strip. “James Quarterly” is a track where I’m reaching for my inner Mick Jones, lol. But, it is a serious song about friendship and witnessing someones drug addiction and close brushes with death.

I do hear some touches of more current bands from Rich’s end on drums and I think that is a great thing. Furthermore, some of his drumming reminds me of Joy Division and early New order as well. Naren has similar tastes as I, but his trained background in music gives us an edge over how I personally approach writing, and it works really well. Karla and I see eye to eye on The Cure, and she too comes from a rich musical background. Her mother was a folk singer that used to hang out with Bob Dylan! How’s that for band DNA?

But, back to your question, yes, those very influences from my formative years play a vital role in our sound. I think that goes for all of us. In the end though those influences are simply just that. We’re not here to imitate anyone.

MC:  The internet is a great thing that allows people more access than ever to new music (after all, it’s how I found Peeling Grey!).  But sometimes I think a down side is that access can be too easy.  Let me explain:  back in the day, if someone even knew about certain bands, they were more than likely a kindred spirit.   But now it doesn’t necessarily mean much at all. You can reach a vastly larger audience, but do you think this results in a correspondingly larger number of “real” fans?    Or do you have to pick and choose your target audience?

PG: We pick who we feel is most likely to understand, appreciate and of course like our music. But, we welcome everyone to enjoy it. I personally do not have a problem with your average teenie-bopper tapping their foot to our songs. Maybe that’s their gateway to better music!

The internet is over-saturated so it’s kind of a miracle that we’re having this conversation. Yes, back in the day things seem to be more sacred. You had to take your chances with some random junk you would find in the discount bin at a music store. That or it was simply word of mouth that got you interested in a band. It’s been so long since the radio did anyone any favors so I won’t go there.  Those things still exist but the internet has made people both impatient and dismissive of lots of things….especially music……Attention span? What’s that?

Hence this calls for bands and promoters to figure out ways to use the internet more effectively. Our way of reaching out to new potential fans through the internet is to actually speak to them one at a time. I like to add a personal touch and remind people that we really do exist! Getting them to your shows is key so that they can make that connection. I think that’s one of the challenges of the internet; The world is condensed down to neutrons and lacks being three dimensional. Still, I would never want the plug pulled on the internet especially in the case of music. Despite the disadvantages anything can happen with billions of people out there. It boggles the mind indeed.

MC: It seems like today’s youth culture is rapidly turning into an amorphous thing where everything has a sort of disturbing sameness, from music to fashion.  That is, what used to be fairly distinct subcultures now have many elements that are almost identical.     I think is largely due to the efficiency of modern communications globalization of mass media.  What are your thoughts?  Can subcultures still retain their identity in the 21st century?   What do think are some of the important factors with this?

PG: I think a new phenomenon may arise. By then who’s to say music will play a significant role. We can only hope so. We call it “subculture” now. It’s so difficult to predict where things will end up in this century. In the long run it’s anyone’s guess. I mean, who in the 19th century would fathom an underground youth movement fueled by music, fashion, and sometimes politics known as Punk Rock in the 20th century?

I think you’re right about technology having its effects on subcultures. The main thing for “subculture” to thrive as we know it in 2010 is passion and rebellion. When people, especially the younger generation cease to revolt or express themselves that is the death of any counter/sub culture. What worries me is that people in general seem to be more complacent these days. That’s what most governments want…if not all of them.

The homogenization of subcultures you speak of has been going on for years now. It’s hard to pinpoint what the causes of that are. But I see this “absorption”  effect in many areas outside of music. I see it in our foreign policy with how we claim to want to spread democracy to other parts of the world while under the table contracts are being awarded to companies that don’t care about American ideals. Instead it’s corporate American homogenization. I see it in globalization as well. It’s also apparent in the media when huge broadcasting companies absorb smaller stations. That’s what happened to KROQ out here in L.A. That was our subculture’s outlet for good music. Now it’s all crap.

As mentioned it’s always about passion. But with passion which can be a fashion as well, comes purpose. Too many people do not have that. Maybe it’s more convenient that way. We use to call out the people who didn’t have a purpose or understanding for their scene or subculture.  They were called poseurs! Now, I don’t intend on going off on an elitist tangent but that is part of the problem; More and more people get into something because it has become accepted. It’s safer nowadays, but I know I can’t turn back the clock….And that’s not what Peeling Grey is all about. We wish to look forward.

At any rate subculture can be the symptom of an ill society. It can also be a wonderful forum for creativity nonetheless. But it seems a lot of art is also the product of social strife and upheaval. I think that’s what made the original London Punk scene real. Bands like The Clash provided a social commentary. It would be interesting what the youth in Iran have to say these days. Maybe that’s where Goth and Punk need to regroup!

MC:  How is the LA scene doing these days?  What are some of your favorite venues and events?

PG: Los Angeles is vast and diverse much like any big city. There are many facets of the Goth scene here. To simplify I would boil it down to two factions, but not really opposing ones: Hollywood is one with its establishments and promoters that seemingly have the financial backing. This comes after years of doing it I suppose. Most events that relate to that side of town or its entrepreneurs cater mostly to dancing…..which I do enjoy…..when the music is decent.

Then there’s the rest of us that throw our own clubs, and more or less stay true to the original aesthetic. I think there’s more of a grassroots feel with the independent promoters and DJ’s that really try to promote not only new and obscure music, but local bands. That’s currently our nitch in L.A. and everyday I do appreciate more what we still have in this town.

My favorite club is Release the Bats…..period. That’s in Long Beach at the Que Sera and was integral to bringing Deathrock into the 21st century. We play there in March and it is a good feeling. I hate the Sunset Strip and never had a good experience at The Knitting Factory in Hollywood…oh that’s gone now, good!

MC:  What are some of the good things about the music “underground?   What are some of the bad?

PG: The good thing is there are no limits. I have seen a few artists really push them. In my opinion it doesn’t always translate into good art or music, but I appreciate anything out of the ordinary.

One of the bad things is depriving the rest of the world of what you want to share. Usually when it’s “underground” it’s relatively unknown. That can also be a good thing, but I think after a while that can get old. I don’t care what anyone says. 99% of art is created with the intent of exhibition……and there usually isn’t a set limit on how many people are allowed to appreciate your craft. Of course I am aware of the stigma of success beyond underground approval. I think I may have touched on that in a previous question. However, as long as the artist remains sincere I do not see a problem.

I suppose what can get annoying is when people’s interest in “underground” scenes is either to be seen or relishment in being among those that pioneer a movement for the sake of it. The most important thing is to really like something, to care for it, and understand it.

MC:  How do you get that cool “fuzzy” sort of sound on the guitar on your demo?

PG: That was our original guitarist (Mike O’Hare) sound. He would just sit there and tinker with his processor during practice. It use to drive us mad because we took 10 minutes between songs! He was very particular. I think the fuzz was partially our collective brainwaves being processed and amplified too. I heard that’s how The Jesus and Mary Chain do it

MC:   When do you anticipate your full length CD coming out?  Can you tell us anything
about it?

PG: Initially we had our sights set on another E.P. Then it dawned on us that a full length is really what we want. It’s difficult to gauge what type of release would get people on board. I figure we’ve already done an EP (even if it was a demo) so now it’s time to properly record our songs for a full length album.

I anticipate the album will be ready for the masses in June or July. In my line of thinking the sooner the better as no one waits for anything these days……so I won’t either. Afterall we’re competing with instant gratification all around!

We’re going to feature at least 10 tracks on the album. We have more songs than that, but anything leftover can be released as a b-side I suppose. I don’t even know if b-sides are still relevant….To hell with the rules, we’ll still have them!

We begin recording on Feb 6th. Our reworked and final version of “Peeling Grey” will be submitted to a German compilation titled “Darkness before Dawn” that will be distributed at this year’s WGT Festival in Leipzig in May. All I can say at this point is I am confident that our album will do justice to all our music. It will sound real, and have some raw nerve yet still hold up to today’s standards of recording.

MC:  Where will Peeling Grey be performing next?   Do you have any plans for a national tour? (hint, hint!)

PG: We’re booked through April. We actually play this weekend at Club Vicious in Rosemead. After our Release the Bats show we’ll be opening for Fangs On Fur and The Deep Eynde in April….Exciting stuff.

We will tour eventually. No matter how much more accessible music is online, it can never replicate playing out. And that is one of our goals; To be a touring band around the world and break some hearts while we’re at it! I wouldn’t be surprised if we were invited over to Europe before the rest of America. We’ve been getting some great feedback from NME Radio in the UK and as mentioned we will also be featured on the German compilation.

I have a feeling there will be a long road (no pun intended) ahead. I think gigging is half the fun…..Could be chaotic and memorable at the same time. Tell us if anyone is willing to sponsor or help us reach that goal One way or another we’re coming to your town.

MC:  Thanks so much for doing the interview!  Is there anything else you would like to add?

PG: Yes, we will be playing your daughter’s next birthday party drunk. Just kidding…..I’m known for bad jokes. Actually we don’t really drink until after the show….At least that’s how I handle it.    Thank you for the interview and we will see you in 2010 and beyond! Stay tuned for our debut album as we’ll be landing in your neck of the woods someday soon. Goodnight!

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